Tales From The Rabbit Hole – Conspiracy Theory Related Interviews with Mick West

Episode 55 – Professor Avi Loeb: The Galileo Project

What is a University professor doing investigating UFOs? Professor Avi Loeb of Harvard University heads the Galileo Project, which seeks (in part) to identify the nature of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena by establishing a network of... Read more

Episode 54 – Mia Bloom and Sophia Moskalenko: Pastels and Pedophiles

Mia Bloom is Professor of Communication at Georgia State University with a PhD in political science from Columbia University. Sophia Moskalenko is a research fellow at Georgia State University and a researcher at the National... Read more

Episode 53 – Jason Colavito – UFOs and the Invisible College, How Did We Get Here?

Jason Colavito is an author and journalist with a focus on “alternative archeology” and, more recently, the UFO cultural phenomenon. In May 2021, he wrote the article: “How Washington Got Hooked on Flying Saucers” in... Read more

Episode 52 – Luis Elizondo – UFOs, UAPs, AATIP, and TTSA

Luis Elizondo is a former senior intelligence official, a disclosure advocate, a national security expert, and the former director of the Pentagon’s UFO/UAP Program (AATIP). We talk about his work in those capacities and also... Read more

Episode 51 – Michael: Post Inauguration QAnon Catchup

Michael is a “follower” of Q, in what is commonly known as the QAnon conspiracy theory. I first talked to him one year ago, February 2020. We met on Twitter discussing UFOs, but had a... Read more

Episode 50 – Alex: Raised by Conspiracy Theorists

Alex was raised by conspiracy theorists. This makes him different from most people who end up down the rabbit hole in that assuming nefarious plots were going on was never a surprise to him. Indeed,... Read more

Episode 49 – Georgina: A QAnon Friend in the UK

QAnon is a very American conspiracy theory, focussing upon a supposed plan by a mysterious entity named ‘Q’ who was working with Donald Trump to rid the US of a corrupt elite. But despite this... Read more

Episode 48 – Accidentally Dating a Conspiracy Theorist

My guest this week thought all was well when she started dating a handsome intelligent man. But then a few things he said, particularly about “the Jews” started to seem like something more than just... Read more

Episode 47: Sarah – Conspiracy Casualty

Sarah’s ex-partner seemed like a normal person, but a few years ago he discovered conspiracy theory videos. Starting with claims that the Moon Landing was fake he quickly progressed to Flat Earth and eventually ended... Read more

Episode 46: Ryan – Growing Out Of 9/11

Ryan became a conspiracy theorist at age 15. He spent five years solidly down the 9/11 conspiracy rabbit hole, believing that the World Trade Center buildings were destroyed with pre-planted explosives. As he grew older... Read more

Episode 45: Brandon Fugal: The Owner of Skinwalker Ranch

Brandon Fugal is a prominent business leader based in Utah and is the current owner of the mysterious Skinwalker Ranch, which is the focus of a wide variety of reported strange phenomena, from supernatural visitors... Read more

Episode 44: Steven Hassan – Cults and Conspiracies

Steven Hassan is an expert on cults. A former high ranking member of the Unification Church, aka the “Moonies”, he’s been helping people escape the rabbit hole since his own escape in 1976. Now he’s... Read more

Episode 43 – Tim McMillan: The Challenges of UFO Investigations

Investigating UFOs presents a number of challenges, many of which are not immediately obvious, but swiftly rear up to impede progress. There are straightforward issues, like military secrecy and people being afraid to talk because... Read more

Episode 42 – Flat Earth and Coronavirus

Does a Flat Earther react to world events differently to other people? When you think the world is flat, then you think that the mainstream view of the world is very wrong. Does this carry... Read more

Episode 41 – Johnny Orbital: Former Flat Earther, Now a Science Advocate

Johnny Orbital is a rare breed – a former genuine believer in the Flat Earth theory who is willing to talk about his experience. When I was writing my book Tales From the Rabbit Hole,... Read more

Episode 40 – Jeremy Rys: Alien Science and 9/11 Conspiracy Theories

Jeremy Rys has gone by “Alien Scientist” for over ten years. His primary interest is in independently researching exotic technology like anti-gravity and warp drives. Some people speculate that such technology exists and comes from... Read more

Episode 39 – DJ Thermal Detonator: 9/11 History and Change

DJ Thermal Detonator was heavily involved in the Los Angeles 9/11 Truth scene in the late 2000s. At that time, local activism centered around the We Are Change group. DJ attended meetings, helped out with... Read more

Episode 38 – Michael: Part 2: QAnon and Predictions

In this second part of my chat with UFO experiencer Michael, we talk about his interest in the QAnon theory. He firmly believes we are on the verge of a storm of arrests of people... Read more

Episode 37 – Michael: Part 1: UFOs and Alien Encounters

Michael posts on Twitter as “UFO Today”. For most of his life, he’s had experiences that seem to him to be some kind of alien visitors. We talk about these, starting with his first experience... Read more

Episode 36 – Gary Voorhis: Tic-Tac UFO Witness

Gary Voorhis was a computer technician on the USS Princeton during the 2004 "Tic-Tac" UFO incident (commonly referred to as the "Nimitz Incident" after the aircraft carrier heading the strike group.) He thinks what he saw was some kind of advanced technology, possibly alien technology. Read more

Episode 35 – Mike Santangelo: 9/11 Truth vs. B.S.

Mike is a member of the 9/11 Truth community. He thinks there might have been explosives used on 9/11 to cause the collapse of the World Trade Center buildings. He does NOT think that a cruise missile hit the Pentagon, and considers that, like some other common 9/11 beliefs, to be "B.S." Read more

Episode 34 – Stian Arnesen: Debunking, Censorship, 9/11, and UFOs

Stian is someone who has been quite deeply involved in the 9/11 Truth community and the UFO community. He also just read my book: Escaping the Rabbit Hole, and has a few questions for me... Read more

Episode 33 – Anthony Magnabosco: Street Epistemology and Conspiracy Theories

Anthony Magnabosco is the most well-known practitioner of the craft of “Street Epistemology”, which he defines as: “a dialog where you use questions to explore somebody’s claim to see how they concluded that it’s true.”... Read more

Episode 32 – The Skeptic of the North: Former Conspiracist, Current Skeptic

Phil is a former conspiracy theorist in Northern Ireland who got into conspiracy theories aged 18, around 14 years ago. Going to university exposed him to a variety of people and to new ways of... Read more

Episode 31: Professor Elizabeth Loftus – Memory and Conspiracy

Elizabeth Loftus is an expert on memory. We discuss how that sometimes relates to the world of conspiracy theories. Read more

Episode 30: Tom – 9/11 Why We Believe and Change

Tom has dabbled in a few conspiracy theories over the years, and still thinks there are some significant questions that have never been answered about why the World Trade Center buildings fell down the way... Read more

Episode 29: Geoff – Everything is a Hoax, The Earth Might Be Flat

Geoff says that six years ago he was “as normal as everyone else,” but when he was caught up in the manhunt for the Boston Marathon bomber (Dzhokhar Tsarnaev) he took an interest in the... Read more

Episode 28 – Brian Dunning: Skeptoid, Conspiracies Declassified, and Science Friction

Brian Dunning is a prolific skeptical podcaster with his award-winning show "Skeptoid" coming up on its 700th episode. Read more

Episode 27 – Michael Shermer: Conspiracies and Conspiracy Theories — The Great Courses

Dr Michael Shermer is founder of The Skeptics Society, and editor-in-chief of its magazine Skeptic. He's written several books on science and skepticism and his latest work is an audio-only 12-part course on Conspiracies. Read more

Episode 26: UFO Jesus – Disclosure, the Nimitz Tic-Tac, and UFO Evidence

UFO Jesus is a popular advocate of UFO “disclosure”, the belief that the US Government is close to revealing that it knows that some UFOs actually are the result of alien visitors. We talk about... Read more

Episode 25 – Jason Bermas: Producer of Loose Change, Shade, Invisible Empire

Jason Bermas is a producer, writer, and YouTuber, best known for conspiracy documentaries such as Loose Change, Fabled Enemies, Shade, and Invisible Empire. Loose Change was a seminal documentary for the 9/11 “Truth” movement, and... Read more

Episode 24: Nick Pope – Area 51, UFOs and UFOlogy

Nick Pope is a journalist and media commentator who writes and talks a lot about the UFO phenomenon. He is perhaps best known for a role he undertook for the British Government from 1991 to... Read more

Episode 23 – Ian/TheoryQED: UFOs, Government Cover-ups, and Alien Visitors.

Ian goes by the name TheoryQED on Metabunk and his YouTube Channel, where he posts about UFOs. Unlike me, and definitely unlike my last guest (Seth Shostak), Ian thinks there's something highly significant to the UFO phenomenon Read more

Episode 22 – Seth Shostak: SETI Senior Astronomer on the Search for ETs, UFO “Disclosure”, and Storming Area 51.

Seth Shostak is the Senior Astronomer for the SETI Institute and former Director of Center for SETI Research. A popular science communicator, Seth has hosted SETI’s weekly radio show (and now podcast) Big Picture Science... Read more

Episode 21: Donald Friedman – Engineer at the World Trade Center After 9/11

Donald Friedman, P.E., F.ASCE, is a professional engineer with more than 25 years of experience in the investigation, analysis, and restoration of landmark buildings. He has taught engineering at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, the University of... Read more

Episode 20 – JM Talboo: Debunker of 9/11 Debunkers

JM Talboo runs the web site http://911debunkers.blogspot.com subtitled "Debunking the Debunkers of the 9/11 Truth Movement". His focus is on debunking people like me. Read more

Episode 19 – Mike Rothschild: Decline of QAnon, Death of Epstein, and other Conspiracies.

Mike Rothschild is a writer who is an expert on a variety of conspiracy theories, in particular QAnon. We discuss the drawn-out decline of the QAnon theory, prosperity scams, and the theories around the death... Read more

Episode 18 – Paradigm Shift – A Student With Questions about 9/11 and the Possibility of Explosives

Paradigm Shift had made many posts about 9/11, and the need, as he sees it, for a new investigation to look into the possibility of explosives being used to bring down the twin towers. Read more

Episode 17: Willie – Rabbit Hole Escapee (ETRH – Preface)

Willie was one of the first people that I interviewed for my book Escaping The Rabbit Hole. He’s a former believer in theories from 9/11 being an “inside job”, to chemtrails. His story forms the... Read more

Episode 16: Adam Taylor – Retired 9/11 Truth Activist

Adam Taylor was very active in the 9/11 truth movement for ten years from 2007 to 2017. He's still very much in favor of a new investigation and thinks there are many unanswered questions about the events of 9/11. Read more

Episode 15: Brad – Mathematics vs. Conspiracy Theories

Brad is an electrical engineer and an expert in mathematics. He also likes to consider that an idea might be true before rejecting it, no matter how extreme. This led him very briefly down the rabbit hole of checking to see if the earth was actually round like a ball, or might it possibly be flat. Read more

Episode 14: Rory – Flat Earth Debunking and Spiritual Journeys

Rory has an extensive series of videos on YouTube debunking Flat Earth, focusing on simple ways of demonstrating that there’s a curve. But he’s also got a very interesting life story as a traveler, both... Read more

Episode 13 – Professor David Keith – Geoengineering Research and the Chemtrails Conspiracy Theory

Professor David Keith is a well-known expert in the largely theoretical field of geoengineering (deliberately modifying the Earth's climate) who has become an often demonized target for conspiracy theorists who think that the climate is actually being secretly modified using "chemtrails." Read more

Episode 12: Paul – Escape from Planet X

Paul is a former promoter of the Planet X conspiracy theory. Planet X (or Nibiru) is a supposed rogue planet that some people claim they can observe near the sun. Supposedly the existence of this planet is being covered up by the government because it's about to cause the end of the world. Read more

Episode 11: Jim Lee – Chemtrails, Geoengineering, Conspiracies, and Semantics

Jim Lee used to be a fairly hardcore conspiracy theorist, deep into things like Chemtrails and doomsday comets. Now he’s less deep down the rabbit hole, but has managed to create one of his own.... Read more

Episode 10: Jen Senko – Director of “The Brainwashing of my Dad”

Jen Senko is the director of the documentary film The Brainwashing of my Dad, released in 2016. The film tells the story of how her father had a drastic change in personality after slowly getting sucked into a rabbit hole of conservative talk radio Read more

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