Joe is someone I’ve known online for nearly ten years, back when he was a believer in the chemtrails conspiracy theory. Over a few years, I managed to talk him out of that one. He’s dabbled in a few other conspiracy theories since then, like JFK, 9/11, and Birtherism (Obama being supposedly born in Kenya), but didn’t really think they had much to them.

Joe is politically right wing, a Tea Party Republican who expressed some support for the Oregon militia standoff of 2016, and is very critical of what he sees as left-wing media bias regarding social issues like race and immigration. The conspiracy he currently thinks is real is that leftists and globalists like George Soros, combined with a “Deep State”, are attempting to use those social issues to manipulate society towards open borders and a one world government.¬† ¬†This is not a fringe view, and variations of this belief are actually shared by a significant number of people.

Joe joking referred to himself as a “deplorable”, a term used by Hillary Clinton to refer to Trump supporters, and then adopted by those supporters as a badge of their perceived oppression by the liberal establishment. To a liberal like myself, Joe’s positions do seem rather disappointing and I disagree with most of his political and social beliefs. But, just like with the more extreme or eccentric conspiracy theorists, I think it’s important to keep the channels of communication open.

 

 

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8 comments on “Episode 9: Joe – Former Chemtrail Conspiracist, Current New World Order Conspiracist

  1. ” I disagree with most of his political and social beliefs.” Of course we grew up in totally different environments . Still do today . I dont know why you find that disappointing ? Life would be boring if we all thought the same .

    • Mick West Jun 17, 2019

      I’m not disappointed that you are different, that’s great. I’m disappointed by some of the differences, as they just kind of seem wrong to me. Kind of inevitable though, as we are so politically different.

  2. 25%
    According to the Government Accountability Office, the percent of inmates in federal prisons who are in the country illegally. The GAO also found that criminal illegal aliens were arrested an average of 7 times.https://www.gao.gov/new.items/d11187.pdf

    • Mick West Jun 17, 2019

      That’s rather misleading though, as most of those arrests were for immigration.
      Statistics eh? Seems like you could pick a bunch from either side. Here’s a bunch of pro and con arguments with sources. https://immigration.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=000782

      • Illegal Immigration is still a criminal act , driving without a license is as well , ID Theft is the Biggest , . We need immigrants who don”t break any laws , We have enough Criminals why import more ? The stats should be Zero ,

        • Mick West Jun 17, 2019

          If you import people who are just like existing American citizens, then you would still have crime. What you are really saying is zero immigration.
          Crime rates are going down. Is immigration really a crime problem?

          • Statistically crime goes down because the population goes up still means more crime .

          • Mick West Jun 18, 2019

            But if we are adding more people, and the crime rate goes down, then does that not indicate that those new people committed fewer crimes?